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42itous ([personal profile] 42itous) wrote2011-04-08 06:43 pm
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Bretzlen

I'm looking for a recipe for traditional Bavarian-style pretzels. They're big and soft, like New York pretzels, but they don't have that gross bitter aftertaste.

Bitter aftertaste, you ask? Yes, I apparently taste something that other people don't, which I attribute to the baking-soda-and-water solution that many recipes call for. My understanding is that traditional recipes call for a lye-and-water solution, and I believe that's what German bakeries use, because those pretzels don't have the bitter aftertaste for me. I don't think I want to use lye in my kitchen, but I'm open to the possibility that there's another option.

Here are a few photos of what I want to make, complete with the cracked or slit surface of the thickest part of the twist.

Bonus points if your recipe uses sourdough, since I have a nice starter at the moment.
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[personal profile] mizarchivist 2011-04-08 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't, but I can at least share my that tastes bitter notion about some pretzels. And scones. I have always thought it was an issue with leavening.

[identity profile] rubrick.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Likewise on the bitter aftertaste, though I've no idea what causes it. I generally experience it with cheaper, generic pretzels (think movie theater) but not, say, Wetzel's.

[identity profile] 42itous.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the only soft pretzels I've had outside of Germany were from NYC street vendors. My dad likes them, so when I was a kid I tried them a couple of times. I'm glad I tried the bretzlen that one finds at every bakery and sandwich shop in Germany, because they're wonderful. And I'm also kind of sorry I tried them, because now I want more.

[identity profile] candle-light.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
For years I would seemingly randomly find certain pancakes, baked goods, etc... too bitter, but not consistently. Then Phil pointed me at the brand of baking powder. That was the random element. There's a commonly used brand that tastes very bitter/metallic to me. Try using a different brand of baking powder and see if the bitterness goes away.
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[identity profile] whuffle.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't find the other ones listed work for you, I've got one that I'm suspecting is correct.

[identity profile] 42itous.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'd love your recipe if you don't mind emailing it to me.
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[identity profile] whuffle.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I'll do better than that. I'll make it with you! Unless you need it before the next time we can get together...

[identity profile] 42itous.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes -- let's make pretzels together!
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[identity profile] whuffle.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
And Hootie will thoroughly enjoy getting to do that with us since he LOVES to bake.